Robert Krulwich. She's a forestry professor at the University of British Columbia. Special thanks to Dr. Teresa Ryan of the University of British Columbia, Faculty of Forestry, to our intern Stephanie Tam, to Roy Halling and the Bronx Botanical Garden, and to Stephenson Swanson there. I mean again, it's a tree. Like, from the trees perspective, how much of their sugar are they giving to the fungus? It's kind of like a cold glass sitting on your desk and there's always a puddle at the bottom. If she's going to do this experiment, most likely she's going to use cold water. Start of message. And therefore she might, in the end, see something that no one else would see. Here's the water.". They will send out a "Oh, no! JENNIFER FRAZER: They're some other kind of category. It's soaks in sunshine, and it takes CO2, carbon dioxide, and it's splits it in half. So there is some water outside of the pipe. ROBERT: Eventually, she came back after ROBERT: And they still remembered. No, it's far more exciting than that. ROBERT: Packets of minerals. But it didn't happen. One tree goes "Uh-oh." They don't do well in warm temperatures and their needles turn all sickly yellow. ROBERT: And on this particular day, she's with the whole family. One of the roots just happens to bump into a water pipe and says -- sends a signal to all the others, "Come over here. JENNIFER FRAZER: So what do we have in our ears that we use to hear sound? I think there are some cases where romanticizing something could possibly lead you to some interesting results. And therefore she might, in the end, see something that no one else would see. It's almost as if these plants -- it's almost as if they know where our pipes are. LARRY UBELL: Yeah, and I have done inspections where roots were coming up through the pipe into the house. I'm a research associate professor at the University of Sydney. One time, the plant literally flew out of the pot and upended with roots exposed. Hopefully I tied that into cannabis well enough to not get removed. And therefore she might, in the end, see something that no one else would see. No boink anymore. On the fifth day, they take a look and discover most of the roots, a majority of the roots were heading toward the sound of water. They still remembered. In a tangling of spaghetti-like, almost a -- and each one of those lines of spaghetti is squeezing a little bit. ], Test the outer edges of what you think you know. JAD: The part where the water pipe was, the pipe was on the outside of the pot? Because the only reason why the experiment turned out to be 28 days is because I ran out of time. This is Ashley Harding from St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada. It's almost as if these plants -- it's almost as if they know where our pipes are. They were actually JENNIFER FRAZER: Tubes. JAD: Yes. And Jigs at some point just runs off into the woods, just maybe to chase a rabbit. He's on the right track. Thanks to Jennifer Frazer who helped us make sense of all this. ROBERT: So you just did what Pavlov did to a plant. Whatever. JAD: And the plant still went to the place where the pipe was not even in the dirt? I think there is something like a nervous system in the forest, because it's the same sort of large network of nodes sending signals to one another. So we figured look, if it's this easy and this matter of fact, we should be able to do this ourselves and see it for ourselves. Well, so what's the end of the story? The problem is is with plants. MONICA GAGLIANO: Exactly. ROBERT: And you can actually see this happen. [laughs]. ROBERT: I'm not making this up. Testing one, two. No matter how amazing I think that the results are, for some reason people just don't think plants are interesting. Once you understand that the trees are all connected to each other, they're all signaling each other, sending food and resources to each other, it has the feel, the flavor, of something very similar. Ring, meat, eat. Smarty Plants--My Latest Guest Spot for Radiolab - Scientific American Blog Network COVID Health Mind & Brain Environment Technology Space & Physics Video Podcasts Opinion Store Knowledge within. Like the bell for the dog. The water is still in there. And to me, here are three more reasons that you can say, "No, really! There was a healthier community when they were mixed and I wanted to figure out why. Where would the -- a little plant even store a memory? So she takes the plants, she puts them into the parachute drop, she drops them. Same as the Pavlov. Or at the time actually, she was a very little girl who loved the outdoors. The plants have to keep pulling their leaves up and they just get tired. I don't know if you're a bank or if you're an -- so it's not necessarily saying, "Give it to the new guy." ], [ALVIN UBELL: Our fact-checker is Michelle Harris. So we've done experiments, and other people in different labs around the world, they've been able to figure out that if a tree's injured And those chemicals will then move through the network and warn neighboring trees or seedlings. Then she takes the little light and the little fan and moves them to the other side of the plant. /locations/california/culver-city/5399-sepulveda-blvd-bank-atm/ MONICA GAGLIANO: I remember going in at the uni on a Sunday afternoon. Wait a second. Today, Robert drags Jad along on a parade for the surprising feats of brainless plants. JAD: That is cool. No. Yeah, and hopefully not be liquefied by the fungus beneath us. Different kind of signal traveling through the soil? ROBERT: When we last left off, I'm just saying you just said intelligence. And I need a bird, a lot of birds, actually. We were so inconsistent, so clumsy, that the plants were smart to keep playing it safe and closing themselves up. Very similar to the sorts of vitamins and minerals that humans need. Seasonally. LARRY UBELL: It's not leaking. These guys are actually doing it." But maybe it makes her sort of more open-minded than -- than someone who's just looking at a notebook. Or No. Find us at 10900 W Jefferson Blvd or call (310) 390-5120 to learn more. It would be all random. MONICA GAGLIANO: It's a very biased view that humans have in particular towards others. ROBERT: We, as you know, built your elevator. No matter how amazing I think that the results are, for some reason people just don't think plants are interesting. So I don't have a problem. Into which she put these sensitive plants. Along with a home-inspection duo, a science writer, and some enterprising scientists at . ROBERT: What kind of creature is this thing? An expert. Charts. You mean you got down on all fours and just SUZANNE SIMARD: Yeah, I would just eat the dirt. ROBERT: So I think what she would argue is that we kind of proved her point. And so we, you know, we've identified these as kind of like hubs in the network. It's condensation. And if you don't have one, by default you can't do much in general. I'm sorry? ROBERT: The plants would always grow towards the light. So it wasn't touching the dirt at all. JENNIFER FRAZER: Well, maybe. That is definitely cool. She's not gonna use hot water because you don't want to cook your plants, you know? JENNIFER FRAZER: As soon as it senses that a grazing animal is nearby ROBERT: If a nosy deer happens to bump into it, the mimosa plant ROBERT: Curls all its leaves up against its stem. But maybe it makes her sort of more open-minded than -- than someone who's just looking at a notebook. And she goes on to argue that had we been a little bit more steady and a little bit more consistent, the plants would have learned and would have remembered the lesson. They're not experiencing extra changes, for example. ROBERT: And I wanted to talk to them because, as building inspectors they -- there's something they see over and over and over. She thinks that they somehow remembered all those drops and it never hurt, so they didn't fold up any more. Because after dropping them 60 times, she then shook them left to right and they instantly folded up again. And then someone has to count. This happens to a lot of people. JAD: From just bears throwing fish on the ground? This is Ashley Harding from St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada. This is by the way, what her entire family had done, her dad and her grandparents. ROBERT: This is the fungus. They may have this intelligence, maybe we're just not smart enough yet to figure it out. The bell, the meat and the salivation. When they did this, they saw that a lot of the springtails that had the tubes inside them were still alive. MONICA GAGLIANO: I don't know. ROBERT: Eventually, she came back after ROBERT: And they still remembered. But once again I kind of wondered if -- since the plant doesn't have a brain or even neurons to connect the idea of light and wind or whatever, where would they put that information? They look just like mining tunnels. MONICA GAGLIANO: Picasso! ], [JENNIFER FRAZER: Bethel Habte, Tracie Hunte, Matt Kielty ], [ALVIN UBELL: Matt Kielly. JENNIFER FRAZER: Yes, in a lot of cases it is the fungus. ", ROBERT: So the deer's like, "Oh, well. And there was a lot of skepticism at the time. The Ubells see this happening all the time. He's the only springtail with a trench coat and a fedora. Can you make your own food? You got the plant to associate the fan with food. No. So they might remember even for a much longer time than 28 days. The part where the water pipe was, the pipe was on the outside of the pot? So that voice belongs to Aatish Bhatia, who is with Princeton University's Council on Science and Technology. Then we actually had to run four months of trials to make sure that, you know, that what we were seeing was not one pea doing it or two peas, but it was actually a majority. I can scream my head off if I want to. ROBERT: Could a plant learn to associate something totally random like a bell with something it wanted, like food? ROBERT: So let's go to the first. ROBERT: Ring, meat, eat. So he brought them some meat. Big thanks to Aatish Bhatia, to Sharon De La Cruz and to Peter Landgren at Princeton University's Council on Science and Technology. ROBERT: And he pokes it at this little springtail, and the springtail goes boing! MONICA GAGLIANO: All of them know already what to do. ROBERT: This happens to a lot of people. Yes. Finally, one time he did not bring the meat, but he rang the bell. She's done three experiments, and I think if I tell you about what she has done, you -- even you -- will be provoked into thinking that plants can do stuff you didn't imagine, dream they could do. Is that what -- is that what this? Like, how can a plant -- how does a plant do that? There's this whole other world right beneath my feet. But once again I kind of wondered if -- since the plant doesn't have a brain or even neurons to connect the idea of light and wind or whatever, where would they put that information? And then someone has to count. And if you don't have one, by default you can't do much in general. ROBERT: And her family included a dog named Jigs. Maybe just a tenth the width of your eyelash. Along with a home-inspection duo, a science writer, and some enterprising . Couple minutes go by SUZANNE SIMARD: And all of a sudden we could hear this barking and yelping. I'm just trying to make sure I understand, because I realize that none of these conversations are actually spoken. Instead of eating the fungus, it turns out the fungus ate them. ROBERT: So these trees were basically covered with bags that were then filled with radioactive gas. ANNIE MCEWEN: What was your reaction when you saw this happen? ROBERT: That is correct. The same one that are used in computers like, you know, really tiny. One of the spookiest examples of this Suzanne mentioned, is an experiment that she and her team did where they discovered that if a forest is warming up, which is happening all over the world, temperatures are rising, you have trees in this forest that are hurting. They're father and son. The water is still in there. It's condensation. And while it took us a while to see it, apparently these little threads in the soil. MONICA GAGLIANO: So then at one point, when you only play the bell for the dog, or you, you know, play the fan for the plant, we know now for the dogs, the dog is expecting. And Jigs at some point just runs off into the woods, just maybe to chase a rabbit. But it was originally done with -- with a dog. That's what she says. But they do have root hairs. Couldn't it just be an entirely different interpretation here? The same one that are used in computers like, you know, really tiny. ALVIN UBELL: How much longer? But what I do know is that the fact that the plant doesn't have a brain doesn't -- doesn't a priori say that the plants can't do something. LATIF: It's like Snow White and The Seven Tubes or something. "I'm under attack!". Smaller than an eyelash. And so I was really excited. No, I guess that I feel kind of good to say this. They definitely don't have a brain. I'm 84. I don't know. They can't take up CO2. So there's an oak tree right there. And moved around, but always matched in the same way together. And then they do stuff. Again. So we went back to Monica. You got the plant to associate the fan with food. JENNIFER FRAZER: Then he would bring them the meat and he would ring a bell. And I met a plant biologist who's gonna lead that parade. Had indeed turned and moved toward the fan, stretching up their little leaves as if they were sure that at any moment now light would arrive. ], Matt Kielty, Robert Krulwich, Annie McEwen, Andy Mills, Latif Nasser, Malissa O'Donnell. MONICA GAGLIANO: It's a very biased view that humans have in particular towards others. If I want to be a healthy tree and reach for the sky, then I need -- I need rocks in me somehow. LARRY UBELL: That -- that's -- that's interesting. ROBERT: Fan, light, lean. ROBERT: That's a -- learning is something I didn't think plants could do. Take it. So I don't have an issue with that. So we went back to Monica. This is the fungus. I think if I move on to the next experiment from Monica, you're going to find it a little bit harder to object to it. And if you go to too many rock concerts, you can break these hairs and that leads to permanent hearing loss, which is bad. Also thanks to Christy Melville and to Emerald O'Brien and to Andres O'Hara and to Summer Rayne. And it's that little, little bit of moisture that the plant will somehow sense. She actually trained this story in a rather elaborate experimental setup to move away from the light and toward a light breeze against all of its instincts. ROBERT: Oh! You have to understand that the cold water pipe causes even a small amount of water to condense on the pipe itself. But maybe it makes her sort of more open-minded than -- than someone who's just looking at a notebook. And then she waited a few more days and came back. JAD: So today we have a triptych of experiments about plants. Just the sound of it? MONICA GAGLIANO: A plant that is quite far away from the actual pipe. So Monica moves the fans to a new place one more time. She made sure that the dirt didn't get wet, because she'd actually fastened the water pipe to the outside of the pot. Each one an ounce, an ounce, an ounce, an ounce, an ounce. ROBERT: So after much trial and error with click and hums and buzzes MONICA GAGLIANO: All sorts of randomness. MONICA GAGLIANO: I wonder if that was maybe a bit too much. And it's that little, little bit of moisture that the plant will somehow sense. JAD: It's like every time I close my eyes, you're coming at it from a different direction. She's working in the timber industry at the time. MONICA GAGLIANO: Exactly. So the -- this branching pot thing. And again. JAD: But still. And again. And does it change my place in the world? So they might remember even for a much longer time than 28 days. I mean, Jigs was part of the family. You should definitely go out and check out her blog, The Artful Amoeba, especially to the posts, the forlorn ones about plants. Was it possible that maybe the plants correctly responded by not opening, because something really mad was happening around it and it's like, "This place is not safe.". They just don't like to hear words like "mind" or "hear" or "see" or "taste" for a plant, because it's too animal and too human. No, Summer is a real person and her last name happens to be spelled R-A-Y-N-E. ROBERT: This story was nurtured and fed and ultimately produced by Annie McEwen. Into the roots, and then into the microbial community, which includes the mushroom team, yeah. ROBERT: Okay. They all went closed. Just a boring set of twigs. Truth is, I think on this point she's got a -- she's right. I mean, I think there's something to that. Today, Robert drags Jad along on a parade for the surprising feats of brainless plants. ROBERT: To try to calculate how much springtail nitrogen is traveling back to the tree. ROBERT: Are you, like, aggressively looking around for -- like, do you wake up in the morning saying, "Now what can I get a plant to do that reminds me of my dog, or reminds me of a bear, or reminds me of a bee?". I've been looking around lately, and I know that intelligence is not unique to humans. ALVIN UBELL: And I've been in the construction industry ever since I'm about 16 years old. ], And Alvin Ubell. Is that what -- is that what this? Yeah, I know. No. So the fungus is giving the tree the minerals. LATIF: Yeah. And moved around, but always matched in the same way together. But I wonder if her using these metaphors is perhaps a very creative way of looking at -- looking at a plant, and therefore leads her to make -- make up these experiments that those who wouldn't think the way she would would ever make up. JAD: The plants have to keep pulling their leaves up and they just get tired. ROBERT: Well, let us say you have a yard in front of your house. A little while back, I had a rather boisterous conversation with these two guys. LARRY UBELL: All right, if she's going to do this experiment, most likely she's going to use cold water. Okay? LATIF: Wait. Like for example, my plants were all in environment-controlled rooms, which is not a minor detail. Well, I have one thing just out of curiosity As we were winding up with our home inspectors, Alvin and Larry Ubell, we thought maybe we should run this metaphor idea by them. And I wanted to talk to them because, as building inspectors they -- there's something they see over and over and over. From Tree to Shining Tree. They're some other kind of category. They would salivate and then eat the meat. They're sort of flea-sized and they spend lots of time munching leaves on the forest floor. JENNIFER FRAZER: An anti-predator reaction? LARRY UBELL: Yes, we are related. It doesn't ROBERT: I know, I know. ROBERT: I know -- I know you -- I know you don't. Or it could be like, "Okay, I'm not doing so well, so I'm gonna hide this down here in my ceiling.". So today we have a triptych of experiments about plants. Of the tree's sugar goes down to the mushroom team? I mean, I see the dirt. Now, can you -- can you imagine what we did wrong? It's gone. LINCOLN TAIZ: It's a very interesting experiment, and I really want to see whether it's correct or not. JENNIFER FRAZER: In the little springtail bodies there were little tubes growing inside them. Because after dropping them 60 times, she then shook them left to right and they instantly folded up again. Yeah. Listen to Radiolab: "Smarty Plants" on Pandora - Do you really need a brain to sense the world around you? So the roots can go either left or to the right. I don't know if that was the case for your plants. On one side, instead of the pipe with water, she attaches an MP3 player with a little speaker playing a recording of ROBERT: And then on the other side, Monica has another MP3 player with a speaker. Five, four, three, two, one, drop! If a nosy deer happens to bump into it, the mimosa plant Curls all its leaves up against its stem. Give it to the new -- well, that's what she saying. So it's predicting something to arrive. They sort of put them all together in a dish, and then they walked away. ], Maria Matasar-Padilla is our Managing Director. ROBERT: So if all a tree could do was split air to get carbon, you'd have a tree the size of a tulip. ROBERT: Monica's work has actually gotten quite a bit of attention from other plant biologists. Would just suck up through photosynthesis. ROBERT: And that's just the beginning. MONICA GAGLIANO: The idea was to drop them again just to see, like, the difference between the first time you learn something and the next time. No, Summer is a real person and her last name happens to be spelled R-A-Y-N-E. And then they do stuff. They sort of put them all together in a dish, and then they walked away. Well, I have one thing just out of curiosity ROBERT: As we were winding up with our home inspectors, Alvin and Larry Ubell, we thought maybe we should run this metaphor idea by them. You got somewhere to go? JENNIFER FRAZER: It's definitely crazy. Enough of that! I mean, this is going places. So she's got her plants in the pot, and we're going to now wait to see what happens. Again. To remember? JENNIFER FRAZER: The fungus has this incredible network of tubes that it's able to send out through the soil, and draw up water and mineral nutrients that the tree needs. LARRY UBELL: No, I don't because she may come up against it, people who think that intelligence is unique to humans. 37:51. And I know lots of kids do that, but I was especially ROBERT: I'm sorry? They're called feeder roots. Different kind of signal traveling through the soil? Me first. He'd fallen in. JENNIFER FRAZER: The fungi needs sugar to build their bodies, the same way that we use our food to build our bodies. [ASHLEY: Hi. And it's more expensive. Oh, well that's a miracle. It was summertime. Jun 3, 2019 - In our Animal Minds episode, we met a group of divers who rescued a humpback whale, then shared a really incredible moment.a moment in which the divers are convinced that the whale . More information about Sloan at www.sloan.org]. ANNIE: But I wonder if her using these metaphors ANNIE: is perhaps a very creative way of looking at -- looking at a plant, and therefore leads her to make -- make up these experiments that those who wouldn't think the way she would would ever make up. 36:59. She thinks that they somehow remembered all those drops and it never hurt, so they didn't fold up any more. Hopefully not be liquefied by the fungus ate them included a dog ( 310 ) 390-5120 learn! 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